Central Research Institute of Engineering Troops. Council of Chief Designers

The engineering troops of Russia are one of the most diverse and technically equipped troops. The system of engineering weapons includes over 600 items of various models and kits. In 2017 more than 750 units were delivered to the troops. engineering technology.

On January 18, 2018, the Federal State Budgetary Institution "Central Research and Testing Institute of Engineer Troops" of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (Nakhabino, Moscow Region) hosted an organizational meeting of the Council of Chief Designers for systems and means of engineering support for the armament system of the ground component of the general forces. The meeting was attended by representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense and 56 chief designers of industrial enterprises in all areas of engineering support.

Chief of Engineering Troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Yu.M. Stavitsky especially noted that havingXiathe level of preparedness and equipment is the main guarantee of saving the lives of servicemen. He stressed the need to create a new collegial body - the Council of Chief Designers.

Yu.M. Stavitsky introduced to the audience the Chief Designer for Systems and Means of Engineering Support for the Weapons System of the Ground Component of General Purpose Forces CEO JSC "NIIII" I.M. Smirnova.

In his speech, I.M. Smirnov dwelled on the specifics of the activities of the Chief Designer, general problematic issues of development, revealing the composition, structure and main activities of the Council of Chief Designers.

In turn, the Scientific and Technical Committee of the Engineering Troops presented the main requirements for the appearance of engineering weapons in the near future, which means that the Council of Chief Designers has something to work on.

Meeting attendees viewed documentary about the engineering troops of Russia and laid wreaths at the monument "To the Warriors of the Internationalists, Participants in the Hostilities and Participants of the Great Patriotic War", opened in 2017. on the premises of the institute.

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A. Ermolin- Good afternoon to everyone who listens to us, the program “Military Council” is on air, the host in the studio is Anatoly Yermolin. I want to say right away that our program is being recorded today, which does not belittle its significance. Our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, good afternoon Ivan Semenovich.

I. Vorobyov- Good afternoon, hello everyone.

A. Ermolin- Ivan Semenovich, well, this is not the first time with us, and your colleagues were there too. How do you assess, over the past year maybe, what is going on in principle in your troops? So I hear what the officers say that you have a powerful growth here, the number, the number of brigades, battalions, and regiments is increasing. Tell me more about what's going on.

I. Vorobyov- Well, for the last 2 years, with the advent of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Shoigu Sergey Kuzhugetovich, they turned their faces to the engineering troops, he forced everyone to turn their faces, as if to combat support. And so the development ... With his arrival, the engineering troops received a new development not only in their structural, regular systems, but also in the development of our engineering equipment. Already this year, we are creating a new formation of engineering troops, they will join the armed forces of the Russian Federation, and this is planned for next year. Well, the main thing, as they say, we must radically replace the means of engineering weapons in the shortest possible time. And those tasks that were recently set by the Minister of Defense, so that 70% of the equipment should switch to the latest models of weapons equipment. This task was also set by the head of the engineering troops, Lieutenant General Yury Mikhailovich Stavitsky, including our research and testing institute of the engineering troops of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, on which we are now fruitfully working.

A. Ermolin- And there was a period when you were taken out of combat command, right? And attached to the rear, right?

I. Vorobyov“You even know that. Well, we will not evaluate the previous leadership, but there was such a stage in our scientific institution when we were subordinate to another scientific institution, the independent structure of which was subordinate to the military commander of the engineering troops - it was absent. And therefore, there were additional problems in design, in research, in the development of engineering troops to create new models. And this work, let's say so, did not stop, it continued anyway, this material accumulated, material was developed, we studied. While it was a time of such oblivion, we still built it up, this material. And now, on October 1 of this year, a central research and testing institute for the engineering troops of the RF Ministry of Defense was formed, which is directly subordinate to the head of the engineering troops, Lieutenant General Yury Mikhailovich Stavitsky.

A. Ermolin- Well, that is, it is not at all necessary to enlarge, enlarge everything in order for everything to be as efficient as possible. I know in what sense? Unexpected (inaudible) I want to throw, that's just civilian life to what is happening in Moscow with educational institutions. By the way, I also think that when there are unique structures, they should be merged with some larger ones ... That is, it is not always effective. But it's me, as they say, abusing it on my own, right? Ivan Semenovich, but tell us a few words about yourself, how did your military career develop?

I. Vorobyov- Well, I developed a military career, let's say so, for the first time with the engineering troops. Let's put it this way - I encountered the monsters of the engineering troops in 1988, while participating in the aftermath of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. When I saw...

A. Ermolin- How old were you then?

I. Vorobyov- I was 24 years old.

A. Ermolin- You mean old?

I. Vorobyov- First lieutenant, yes. I was given a high honor, and I was a participant in the liquidation of the consequences of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

A. Ermolin- Admitted to the reactor.

I. Vorobyov- Yes, I was admitted to the reactor, we were stationed in a ten-kilometer zone, our engineering and road battalion was stationed. They carried out the tasks of reburial of radioactive waste, and for the first time I encountered a scientific group that was from the 15th former Central Research Institute of Engineering Troops, which previously existed. It seemed to me that it was simply simply unattainable ... Those people who, deep down, were very great people at that time. And now, after almost 30 years, I headed this institute, the head of the troops somehow added to me. Therefore, I will try to justify this trust. And that story, those ... So, work with the former heads of the institute, we do not stop it, communication, I listen to them. Well, let's say so, in the future my life turned out more ... I served in the troops, in the southern military district, in the North Caucasus, in the southern military district. A participant in hostilities, in principle, practice - it is, we know what our soldier wants, we know how to protect him, we have seen it all, passed it through our hands. Now, as the task has been set by the chief of troops, all this should be translated into science, translated into new means, into the development of new means of engineering weapons.

A. Ermolin Was it scary in Chernobyl? What was it, scary or interesting? Or is it terribly interesting? What emotions does the young starley have there ...

I. Vorobyov- The main thing... Well, as instructed: the main thing is not to leave the road anywhere, not to go into any restricted areas, not to lift anything that is not necessary. Because everything is radioactive. Well, I think the state of health allows for the time being to head the institute, there are no health problems, but that's all ...

A. Ermolin- Have you caught radiation?

I. Vorobyov- Yes, of course. In small quantities, it is probably useful, we all gradually ... And in Moscow they catch it, this radiation. So I think...

A. Ermolin- Everything is useful for us. (inaudible) everything is useful.

I. Vorobyov Yes, so I don't see anything wrong with that.

A. Ermolin- Well, you can really protect ... That's all the same, such a unique experience of military personnel in the conditions of a nuclear threat there, or radiation. That's what ... Here, a competent officer can really do it, relying on standard protective equipment, to make sure that all people survive, or receive a minimum dose of radiation.

I. Vorobyov- Well, firstly, according to the requirements for the development of engineering weapons, which partly concerns ... Either this is equipment, or these are some kind of protective equipment, they are all developed taking into account protection from the effects of radiochemical, biological radiation. At present, one of our departments of our institute is working on modern technologies, in the use of personnel protection equipment. This is if we previously relied more on reinforced concrete structures that were part of the ratification structures, then at the present time these are already modern composites, which are both lightweight, and including their property allows you to give more protection to personnel, hide them, ensure the survivability of these structures. Well, including, even ... I will continue this topic so that we somehow (inaudible) our listeners in that we will apply them already by the method (inaudible). And to assemble the structure that we need exactly for that terrain, and as much as possible we can protect the personnel.

A. Ermolin- So I pester your colleagues all the time with one low American one, called “Good Soldiers”. It’s just there ... Well, I just recommend reading it, because it’s about how the Americans fought in Iraq. There, just with one ... A large military unit, the journalist was constantly. And he just describes real experience what the fighters feel, how they died there, what is being done. It's just very similar to what we felt in Afghanistan. The same tactic, they sit on the armor, the same way they tighten their legs so that at least one leg remains on these of their own (inaudible). Actually, why do I remember this - because that's where I just read about these legos, about such prefabricated structures, when the engineering service arrives, chik-chik, and actually built it there ... Well, not from adobe bricks, which at one time in We did Afghanistan, right? But you do everything quickly, right there is a tower, right there are drones, right there is a control zone. That is such a very effective technology. I mean, we already have that too. Or is it still being developed?

I. Vorobyov- It's in development. And it already means what you say on drones, and the control of the adjacent territory, what we should carry out, and how to place it all. A task has been set for the commanders of the troops, it will be carried out, and in the month of May ...

A. Ermolin- Drones (inaudible).

I. Vorobyov- Yes, the drones (inaudible) that worked with us ... At the open (inaudible) guys worked for us at the competitions, joint interaction was organized, they worked very fruitfully. But the chiefs of troops were given the task that in May, at the assembly of the leading staff of the engineering troops, we must report to our commanders, to our chiefs on the measures taken. Therefore, these modern samples of modern weapons will already be presented there, this is a line of our engineering equipment, which will be ... In 2 years, which has already been completed, created. The enterprises will present all this so that we can already report and show specifically not on paper already, not on mock-ups, but we will present all of this equipment to our subordinate officers live, already leasing this equipment.

A. Ermolin- Are you studying world experience? You have analysts who don't find out on Ekho Moskvy, let's put it this way.

I. Vorobyov Well, you can't live without it. You know, whoever has the information owns the world, so we have it all the time, it all starts with this. This is the initial data for the design and creation of any piece of equipment, this is experience foreign countries we take. Where, as used, is precisely the practical action in dual-use combat. There are different principles of approach, as for each sample. Therefore, we study them, and before continuing this work, we choose the direction that suits us ... In general, we look, study both the model that we must create, and the opposition to this model, how, what happens in foreign armies, too, we are studying so that he can counteract.

A. Ermolin- I want to remind you that today we are working on the record, and our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Ivan Semenovich, we stopped at foreign experience, on how you research it and apply it in your developments. And at the same time, do not forget Russian history. After all, a military engineer Russian history, and in the history of the armed forces has always been the first elite itself. And here's how ... What do you draw from there, right? And what traditions are you trying to keep?

I. Vorobyov- Well, first of all, I want to remind our listeners that the engineering troops are the oldest troops of our armed forces. Next January, we will already be celebrating the 313th anniversary of the formation of the engineering troops. Our research and testing institute of engineering troops is one of the oldest scientific institutions of the Ministry of Defense. Just recently, on October 6, we celebrated the 95th anniversary of our institute. Therefore, we never departed from history, and never left. Because if someone forgets history, he has no future. This is the first principle that is preserved in the engineering troops. We are constantly given… We work with our veterans. These are the people who started... Let's say so, who started science on some models, on mock-ups, now they have smoothly switched to software testing schemes. We always work with them, we always interact. They make up the largest percentage in our institute, our respected people, veterans. Who gave not 30 years, but 50, 60 years. There are even veterans who gave engineering troops. And the invaluable experience that they have from the time there (inaudible) training ground, military operations in Afghanistan, counter-terrorist operations, they ... This is still only for the benefit of the development of engineering troops. Therefore, honor and praise to them, many thanks to them, and we are always ready to work with them.

A. Ermolin- What period in the history of the engineering troops can be called such a breakthrough in the development of tactics for the use of new technical means.

I. Vorobyov- Well, first of all, we must not forget that the breakthrough period is still the development of engineering troops, (inaudible) engineering weapons, which are now even currently being used. These were the developments of the 70s. It seems like 50 years have passed, but they are relevant now. And now, in the second decade of the 21st century, we are trying to do new stage a breakthrough because, first of all, the development of engineering weapons should be based on new technologies, on new requirements for engineering weapons, and as the task was again set by the chief of troops, each tool should have its own zest so that we do not stop at modernizing just a sample . And it must be developed new, according to new requirements, according to new trends that we have for engineering equipment.

A. Ermolin- And you are satisfied with the engineering culture, the bearers of which are those officers who come to you. Well, I can give you an example as an illustration... Recently I re-read the memoirs of Pyotr Alekseevich Kropotkin, who was a prince, studied in the page corps. He described his page years in great detail, including the great importance given to fortification work. And he writes like they are cadets, although in the status of pages, right? That is how they are. How much time and effort they spent on calculations, on the construction of fortifications, and how it was a shame for them to break it all later. Because they built it all for real. Now, as you can see... Well, actually I won't repeat myself. Are you satisfied with those engineers who come to you today?

I. Vorobyov“The quality of training at our Tyumen Higher Engineering Command School is very high. And our graduates - they are always in demand in the troops, this is first of all. Our graduates of the Academy of the Military Institute of Engineering Troops, as part of the combined arms academy, are also very much in demand among the troops. Well, if we continue this topic, then if we stop at a soldier, then from this school year engineering training became the main subject of study. Therefore, if a department is negligent in its engineering training classes, it can get higher than the mark that it will receive in engineering training, it will never receive. Therefore, the attitude of the commanders of all became more serious about engineering training. Because everyone understands perfectly well, if you don’t know engineering, as Peter I says, then you won’t be promoted in rank either. Therefore, everyone is very... Now there has been a big change in relations in engineering training in the troops, and the readiness of personnel, officers, it has increased significantly. Well, if you don’t go that far, the last competition “Our Open Water”, which was held among the pontoon crossing units of the engineering troops in the city of Murom, Vladimir Region, showed the highest class of officers. The personnel of the units, the performance of engineering support tasks, in particular those related to overcoming and forcing a water barrier.

A. Ermolin- I suggest we talk about this in more detail. If possible, a few words about what your institute is like. We have already talked about the troops, about human capital too, right? Let's focus on exactly what you do every day.

I. Vorobyov- Our Institute consists of four main departments, research departments, which have their own areas of activity, scientific activity, including our leading department - this is which is developing engineering ammunition. It creates them, creates ways to overcome these ammunition, search, reconnaissance. (Unintelligible) there is a department that is developing our engineering equipment, in particular those related to earth-moving machines, amphibious assault vehicles. (Unintelligible) management, which leads the opposition technical means reconnaissance, and the creation of means of disguise. The fourth department deals with the training of our entire scientific work in management. (Unintelligible) the activities of the four directorates, it covers the entire spectrum of our engineering equipment, our tasks that we have as a type of combat support. We cover them in full. The development and direction of the development of funds were determined by the chief of troops, a common understanding of our future activities was developed, among other things. First of all ... Well, if we take those who deal with engineering ammunition in this way, this is not a violation of the Geneva Convention in the first place, the creation of ammunition must be carried out in strict accordance with overcoming (inaudible) obstacles, this is the creation of search tools that can provide search in any situation, in any environment, and by any means, explosive objects in any conditions. Well, there are very progressive developments in the creation of engineering equipment. We hope that in the month of May, as I told you, we will show these funds. This means that they are promising, they differ significantly from the means that we currently have in service. Because there are new approaches to them presented. Well, our developments continue in terms of means of camouflage against counteraction. First of all, no one could find us anywhere. Well, in short.

A. Ermolin- Do you have, say, a unit that operates in advanced research mode. Now, in the structure of the military-industrial commission, such a powerful direction has been created, and in general, the Americans have existed for 100 years (inaudible), which invented the notorious Internet there at one time, in fact. And there are specially trained people, including science fiction writers, who are paid money to simply fantasize and set tasks for today that seem absolutely unrealistic, and then a few decades pass, and suddenly you see, it all starts to work. Here you have such a brain center that would think about what is not yet there.

I. Vorobyov- You know, here in the engineering troops we have such a term (inaudible). There must be action everywhere. Therefore, I will not disclose it, we also have it.

A. Ermolin- It's already nice. I want to remind our listeners that our guest is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of the engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense, we are leaving for a break.

A. Ermolin- We continue the meeting of the "Military Council". I want to remind you that today we are working on recording, and our guest today is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Actually, it is not a secret that there was a period when the older generation was not in demand, the middle link was not actually involved in anyone, and now such a hole has formed. That is, as many fellow experts say, yes? That great minds are already in strong retirement age, and young guys with drive are just ready to get involved in the action, but there is such a central link, the most important hard workers who already know the specifics, and who have not yet lost their energy. Do you feel such a problem for yourself?

I. Vorobyov- So the whole backbone, in particular, of our institute, there is a backbone in the institute. For all the above categories, as you said, there is a backbone. Youth who already have degrees who defended… The young, promising guys are candidates of technical sciences. The middle link, as you say, who pull this burden, who can work with young people and the older generation, we will say so, our heads of departments. The officers who came have experience in both military service and scientific activities. Our departments are also headed by doctors of sciences, people are in charge ... For science, the age is 40-45 years, these are still young guys for science.

A. Ermolin- Well, in general, yes.

I. Vorobyov- Yes. And those who are officers of the engineering troops who have completed their service, they also pass on their experience within the walls of our institute. Yes, we would like to have more young people, and first of all, we are now developing this youth policy, how to attract young specialists to the institute. We got acquainted with the experience of our Bauman, how it all happens there. And I was very pleased when, for example, the employees of Baumanka are young, 23-24 year old guys, it turns out they don’t work for money, they work ...

A. Ermolin“Not just for money.

I. Vorobyov“Not only for money, yes. They don't get a lot of money. I will say that they do not receive much money for Moscow measures. But they work for an idea, they work for interest, they like it, and this is an important (inaudible) thing that I wanted to hear, and in principle we will also direct our youth policy towards this in order to attract young people to our side, and within the walls of our institute. Including (inaudible) no interest. Right now, the issue of creating a scientific company of engineering troops is being worked out. This is the task set by the Minister of Defense ...

A. Ermolin- Where do you want to do it? In Tyumen?

I. Vorobyov- No, we're here (inaudible).

A. Ermolin- (inaudible).

I. Vorobyov- Somewhere we will, yes, here we will tie it to our institute, to our potential, yes. Therefore, the second may be we will consider the issue in universities, the issue may be resolved, after all, this is mentally, as they say, in our places, and there will be budget places from our institute, that upon graduation from the university, the graduate will be obliged to come to us, and within three years to work for the benefit of the institute. And then he will be free to choose his profession, or continue to cooperate with us, or leave. Well, this is an option, we are these ...

A. Ermolin- (inaudible) find a perspective. That is, it is as if it has not been worked out yet.

I. Vorobyov- Not worked out, yes, but we have already started it ...

A. Ermolin- There are many interesting ...

I. Vorobyov- Yes, we started working on this idea.

A. Ermolin- That is, 3 years ... He comes to you after a civil institute already certified as ...

I. Vorobyov- Specialist, yes. And he is already in office. We have those positions that the head of the laboratory, he can take, and work already for the good. Moreover, he even takes part in those practices that are production practices, and scientific practices that are institute, he will take them within the walls of the institute.

A. Ermolin- And he can be certified for officer positions, or he (inaudible).

I. Vorobyov- If he has a military department, this question ... He will come to us as civilians, if he suits us, we can call him in the future, and he can go to an officer position with a promotion, and with a further prospect of growth as an officer as a specialist in engineering troops.

A. Ermolin- Do you trust young ambitious developments? Why am I asking? Because young scientists work not only for money. Young scientists work in the first place ... Actually, the theory is just intellectual workers, the creative class, as they say now, right? They assume that they must be trusted with some very cool tasks, which really, no matter what, they were very interested. In Belarus, by the way, the guys also talk about who develops automotive technology. That is, everything is there ... The average age is 25-26 years old, like that.

I. Vorobyov Yes, and I want to build it. This is a priority for young people at the institute, we have stirred them up a little now, ideas have already begun, thoughts have begun. Monthly meetings with youth are already planned, as they say, as my daily routine and work with youth, because somewhere in my soul I don’t consider myself old either. What we implemented, someone once laughed at us, and now it turns out to be a promising direction of development. I educate my youth in the same way so that they understand that they should see a like-minded person in me, see the person who will support them. I am ready to work with them. Two officers wanted to retire, they had already refused to be transferred to the reserve. Therefore, we will continue to work, we have seen a new direction of our activity.

A. Ermolin- Ivan Semenovich, here you come up with ... You are no longer just trying, but coming up with new modern trends increase the attractiveness of your service. In particular, you have already mentioned open water, as a kind of combination of such a professional competition, and a show. What is this? Is this a fashion, or is it a serious strategy?

I. Vorobyov“I still think it’s a strategy. And let's say so, again, 2 years ago, the Minister of Defense gave impetus to this development of competitiveness, competitiveness. In the 13th year, I had to engage in tank biathlon from the engineering troops. I learned a lot, and this year I was involved in the reassignment to the position of our ... Competition of the Open Water crossing units. And I believe that it is here in these competitions of any types of military branches that participate, that is, such extreme conditions are created when the equipment is simply simply used to its maximum capabilities. And this gives a very big leap forward in the development of science in the first place. Because those means that have been used for, say, 20-30 years, it seemed to us that they had already simply been brought to automatism, but here, for example, these competitions in crossing means revealed some problems. Because these conditions were created when we didn’t just meet the standards, as we used to do all the time, but here there was competitive competition on the verge ... Everyone walked along the razor’s edge, while not violating safety requirements, while using that technique to the maximum. Some new schemes were introduced, new ways of using our technology.

A. Ermolin What was the intention, by the way? Here's how... What was the task of the units, what did they compete in?

I. Vorobyov- Subdivisions... So, let's say it was played out... Our main task of the engineering troops, the type of combat support, is to ensure the crossing of the water barrier.

A. Ermolin- Was it in Murom?

I. Vorobyov- Yes, it was in the city of Murom, Vladimir Region, in a limited area where the initial, opposite bank was prepared. Three teams competed at the same time in limited areas (inaudible) up to 100 meters, where they showed their skills. And skill was shown not only by crossing on high-speed boats. And also single ferries, platoon ferries were assembled, a company ferry was assembled, which is capable of transporting large-sized heavy equipment. And the end of the competition was the construction of a floating bridge across the Oka River, 350 meters long. Here is the guidance of this bridge, along which all the equipment passed. Also, in order to show our viewers all the possibilities of engineering equipment, before the start of these competitions, our unique samples were shown, these are ferry-bridge crossing vehicles, crossing facilities. We were also shown, motorized rifle units, artillery units participated with us, which provided ... Aviation helped us a lot. Well, we are also grateful to the administration of the city of Murom, which provided us with great assistance in holding our competitions. And I think the main indicators are those 15,000 people who came to watch, cheer for the engineering troops, and at the deployed recruitment center, which was deployed on this site, we, as part of the engineering troops, 8 people, signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense. Well, as a continuation of the Murom land, we will create such a backbone of engineering troops there, including a large panton crossing unit.

A. Ermolin- Our guest is Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, colonel, head of the research, testing institute of the engineering troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Do you somehow interact with colleagues from, say, Rostekhnologii? And I just remembered that just last Monday we had a representative of the Compass Design Bureau, and he talked about new technologies, about new ideas for building mobile ports. It's also like a kind of Lego system, prefabricated metal, environmentally friendly.

I. Vorobyov Well, I'll put it this way in general terms. Our institute cooperates with about 150 scientific institutions and industrial ones.

A. Ermolin- Rostekhnologii, right?

I. Vorobyov- Yes. In general, our cooperation goes in all directions, so we are not from anyone ... We always take who has the best, who offers what. Many people help us to develop on their own initiative, or offer something on their own initiative, let's say so. Everyone used to get used to: give us money, and we will give you something for this money. Now there is a completely different approach, including with Rostekhnologii. They proactively offer us their developments, which we can implement. And if they do not suit us, if they fulfill all our requirements, we take them further to the serial stream.

A. Ermolin- And what other strategic directions do you see in the system of providing troops? So we recalled Chernobyl, and I remembered something in this regard while still being a cadet, they showed us this technique, which is designed to operate under conditions of a nuclear strike, contamination of radioactive terrain, and they always seemed to me to be some kind of such spaceships , which there almost have to walk on Mars. Are they preserved? You can exploit them, and what's new in this direction. There are such smart, very well-protected machines, or the stake is simply placed there on cranes, bulldozers, graders. That is, everything that does not excite fantasy young man, so to speak.

I. Vorobyov- No, well, first of all, we should not give up cranes, bulldozers and excavators. Because without them, nowhere ... Neither the troops will move, they will not complete the tasks. And in terms of prospects, what you said continues. We have never stopped it, the development of robotic systems continues in the first place. Because they - the first developments were started back in the 70-80s. Even let's say so, our probable opponents did not have them, and our developments were already controlled ... There was radio-controlled equipment, these are samples. The only thing is that now the transition has gone more to fulfilling tasks in order to save the lives of personnel. This is primarily a means of demining. As for engineering support, tools are being developed ... These are fire extinguishing tools, remote control. And in the future, other samples will be developed to perform other engineering tasks. First of all, they are aimed at moving our soldier as far as possible from the probable danger in order to ensure his life, and at the same time we could complete all the assigned tasks.

A. Ermolin- Do you protect intellectual property? How do you put it… This is one of the most key problems in general, well, let's say, in neo-crises related to the specifics of our country. I remember at the Institute of Steel and Alloys they told such a story that, say, a doctor of science received the Stalin Prize for the invention of a lithium battery in 1957. Actually, the lost profit is gigantic, right? Because the whole world can't right now... Given the spread mobile phones, all kinds of tablets and so on, just can not do without them. It turns out that we have lost the money that we could earn on intellectual property. Here you are somehow... What are you doing in the country, and how much do you insure your risks in the international arena? Or is it impossible to insure them?

I. Vorobyov- Well, we are still ensuring the safety of our intellectual property on our own. Maybe we are up to the level of insurance ...

A. Ermolin- Preservation, or commercialization?

I. Vorobyov- Well, before commercialization, we may come to this a little later. It can’t be, but we’ll come, and these tasks are also set by the boss. But at present, what is being developed within the walls of the institute, I am called upon to preserve this, this intellectual property, for the time being, within our walls. And what will be decided, submitted for commercialization, it will already be made a separate decision so that, as they say ... These developments went somewhere further. Therefore, now the main task is to preserve our potential, the intellectual property that has been created today for the development of our engineering equipment in the first place.

A. Ermolin- Well, by the way, there is something to learn from the same Americans. When they have a very clear ranking of all the neo-crows there. They don’t show space to anyone, they don’t show the army to anyone, then it starts, as it were, what you can give for your own, and only at the fourth stage, maybe 10 years after the introduction of the first samples of real ones into operation, foreign commercial partners can get it there .

I. Vorobyov“I think that our special services… The first is that I was told the category, the first category of our service, I don’t know… Therefore…”

A. Ermolin- Well, after all, among the immediate tasks, as the head of such a promising, interesting institute, what do you see as the most important thing in your work?

I. Vorobyov- First of all, it is necessary not to lower, but to increase your scientific potential, this is the first thing. We will have to work, as I said, in order to supply the institute with new personnel, new directions. Thoughts - this will be connected with the arrival of new people to the institute. This is a thorough study of the material that is available on the creation of engineering weapons like our potential enemy, foreign partners, and the development of new promising engineering weapons. This is a prerogative, we must fulfill the task set by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation to provide our troops with new models, modern models of engineering equipment, and new perspective. Well, for now I will keep silent about them a little, I will not reveal them to the end. Let it then be much more interesting for all our listeners.

A. Ermolin- Do you have your own test base?

I. Vorobyov- Yes, we have a test base. First of all, our unique pool for studying the properties of amphibious assault vehicles. We have a very good laboratory for testing electrical equipment, we have a cold store, which ensures the testing of funds for temperature conditions up to -50 degrees. We have the impact of the shock wave, the so-called our pipe, (inaudible) pipe. And there are test sites for floating equipment, there are test sites for testing explosive barriers, where these tests are constantly carried out. Therefore, our institute is currently being optimized, including that we will soon submit these proposals to the chief of troops in order to optimize the creation of a laboratory and experimental base for our institute, which should already correspond to modern conditions, modern requirements, the creation of a laboratory building of a new proposal by a buoy to take out. And to optimize the work of our research departments, and management in general.

A. Ermolin- So I want to ask many more questions, but unfortunately time is very fleeting. I want to remind our listeners that Ivan Semenovich Vorobyov, Colonel, Head of the Research and Testing Institute of Engineering Troops of the Russian Ministry of Defense, was our guest today. Ivan Semenovich, thank you very much, come to us again, we will always be happy.

I. Vorobyov- Always ready for cooperation.

A. Ermolin- Thank you.

I. Vorobyov- Thank you very much.

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